Sacred Tree Profile: Eastern White Cedar (Thuja Occidentalis)

Closeup of Cedar Branch (Courtesy of Wikipedia)

This is a post in my ongoing series of “Sacred Trees in the Americas” where I examine the magical qualities of trees in the Midwest/Eastern/Great Lakes regions of the US. My previous posts have covered the Eastern Hemlock, Hickory, and Sugar Maple. Many more trees are to come in the upcoming year!

Since moving to the Great Lakes region six years ago, I am always delighted to find the Eastern White Cedar in many places , especially on the edges of Lake Huron or in swampy areas close to Lake Huron’s shores. I was also delighted to do this research and discover what others have learned about Cedar as a magical tree.  In this blog post, I will present a comprehensive view of the Eastern White Cedar in order to understand the tree’s magical qualities: about the tree, its name, its uses, its medicinal properties, the western magical lore, a systematic review of the native American lore, and my own experiences. Come with me now on a journey with me deep into the swamp where the Eastern White Cedar is found in abundance….

About the Eastern White Cedar

The Eastern White Cedar is a tree native to much of central and eastern North America although it has been much more broadly introduced, often under the name “arborvitae” (the Tree of Life). It is most highly around the great lakes region in the US and Canada, although patches of it can be found in other parts of North America. The tree goes by quite a few names, including the yellow cedar, white cedar, swamp cedar. However, despite “cedar” in the name, this particular tree is not a true cedar but a cypress tree (Cupressaceae). It is often found in swamps and other wet areas where it does not suffer much competition, but can thrive anywhere were there isn’t substantial competition from other trees or where someone thought to plant one decoratively. Around the Great Lakes region, it can also be found growing on cliff faces—and some of the oldest specimens of Eastern White Cedar are located on the cliffs of the lakes. It is a fairly short tree (typically growing 33-66 feet) although taller trees (up to 98 feet with a 1.3 foot trunk) have been discovered.

Physical Uses of Cedar: Eastern White Cedar wood is in high demand commercially due to its anti-termite/insect properties as well as its anti-rotting properties (these properties connect to the “eternal” nature of the tree and native American legends). These straight, tall, beautiful trees make delightful log cabins, wooden shingles for natural building projects, and excellent strong yet lightweight support beams. When the cedars dry, they are incredibly lightweight and easy to work (although not nearly as strong as oak or hickory). I have found Eastern White Cedar a very easy wood to work and enjoy the beautiful white coloring of the cedar wood, especially when some oil is added to the finished wood piece. Eastern White Cedar has a whitish color to the wood—it is not intensely red like the Red Cedar found in the Western US.

The Tree of Life: Despite its small stature, the Eastern White Cedar is an incredibly long lived tree—Kelly and Larson (1997) report that the current oldest living Eastern White Cedar (found in Ontario overlooking the great lakes) is 1062 years old, having germinated in 952 (oh, the history this tree must have seen). they also report finding a dead Eastern White Cedar whose age was estimated at 1890 years old; these are the oldest living trees in Canada and Eastern North America (and one reason for the very deserving name, Tree of Life).  Another reason for this name was given above–it is extremely rot resistant and its wood lasts a long time.

“Thuja” and Medicinal Qualities

A third reason that the Eastern White Cedar is known as the Tree of Life is due to its extensive medicinal uses. Eastern White Cedar is known as a medicinal as “Thuja.” Often, it is taken in small or homeopathic doses—that is, does that are less than, one part per million (therefore providing an energetic, rather than physical, connection to the plant). One of the reasons is that Eastern White Cedar contains thujone, a substance that is irritating to the mucus membranes and one that, given repeated large does, can cause permanent damage to the central nervous system. While a full review of its medicinal uses is certainly outside of the scope of this article, it is sufficient to say that humanity has a very longstanding relationship with Eastern White Cedar for providing relief or curing a host of illnesses and conditions—from warts to curing gout, from curing malaria to scurvy, from curing strep throat to rheumatism, from bringing on the courses to bringing labor. Modern medicine has even found the tree of assistance in treating two of the most devastating illnesses of our modern time: cancer and HIV.

Closeup of Cedar Branch (Courtesy of Wikipedia)
Closeup of Cedar Branch (Courtesy of Wikipedia)

Eastern White Cedar is one of the most important homeopathic remedies; Lilley (ND), a British homeopathic practitioner, writes that “among trees, Thuja is the supreme healer, even the lordly oak having to yield precedence…. Thuja is one of homeopathy’s greatest gifts to mankind and to medicine.” Of particular importance towards a magical understanding of the tree, we can further examine some homeopathic uses of the tree. According to Lilley, Eastern White Cedar is very useful for treating people who turn to various coping mechanisms in order to deal with the difficulties of our present age. Excessive behaviors (drug addictions, overeating), as well as those who have been sucked into materialism and escapist behaviors all benefit from Eastern White Cedar —it provides them with a way reconnect with the spiritual and the divine. It is also used homeopathically for those who feel dirty, have self-loathing, feel worthlessness or shame due to their own behavior or due to something experienced or inflicted upon them—again, it helps reconnect them and “clear” them. This is because Eastern White Cedar is able to go into the unconscious and connect us deeply, rather than through surface issue.

The fact that Eastern White Cedar is so medicinal but must be used carefully gives us another indication about its magical qualities.

Etymology of “Thuja.” Another way of examining the magical quality of the Eastern White Cedar is by tracing the Latin term through which it is linked – “Thuja.” Thuja is derived from the Ancient Greek Thuya (n), which means “to sacrifice” or thusia (n), a burnt offering. Given the nature of the uses of cedar as a smudge for protection and clearing, this connection is clear. It is also striking to me that the uses of cedar throughout the world, uses that rose independently, have so much in common with the root of the word.

Traditional Western Magical Lore

In the Encyclopedia of Natural Magic, John Michael Greer suggests that the cedar is warm and dry in the 4th degree (e.g. extremely fire-based) and is a tree of Jupiter. He reports that Cedar has traditional symbolism also associated with the Yew; it was often planted around cemeteries both for the evergreen qualities of the tree (symbolizing eternal life) but also to keep the spirits of the dead contained (this ties directly with the Native American Lore, below). He reports that the Native Americans in the Pacific Northwest used cedar bark/needles for purification for those who had contact with the dead. He suggests its useful for purifications, banishings/exorcisms, success workings, and magical power workings.

Cat Yronwode’s Hoodoo Herb and Root Magic, suggests that in traditional African American Conjure, it is used where “benevolent” power is needed, such as to make someone move out of a house, to draw someone to rent a room, or to draw someone to come with you when you move.

Cedars in the Snow
Cedars in the Snow

Incense making & Magical Fire: Cedar wood and resin are both major incense ingredients (and as someone who makes incense fairly regularly, I can say that they are delightful to work with). Cedar wood, ground finely into a powder, produces a lovely woody aroma (I have used both red and white cedar–they produce a very similar energetic resonance with the incense, but do look a bit different, obviously).  I have found extremely limited amounts of cedar resin on my trees; they don’t produce much resin at all compared to say, white pine. But when that tiny bit of resin is burnt it is somewhat light and reminiscent of smoke from the branches or wood but with a sweeter quality.  You can also make smudge sticks from the branches.

Native American Legends and Uses for Eastern White Cedar

I’ll start this section with a caveat – challenge with the Native American lore on Cedar is that the stories rarely specify which cedar trees are being used. I’ve looked at stories and uses from tribes that were more located in the Eastern US, but since so many tribes were displaced over time, its hard sometimes to know which tree the lore discusses or where the tribe was when the story was written down. I’m not able to find details on white cedar vs. red cedar for stories and uses in many senses, but it seems that the uses of White Cedar in the Great Lakes Region are comparable to the uses of Red Cedar in the west. When the information is clear on which Cedar, I do present that in the synthesis below.  The wood within the Eastern vs. Western trees is differently colored, but the consistency of the wood and bark are similar, and so I suspect that a use in one tradition is likely a use in another.  And that’s been my experience in working with both kinds of cedar wood in incense making.  I’ve seen some indication of that in my review of 1400+ tales for discussion of Cedar, where tribes from east and west are describing similar uses.  The cedar is a powerful, revered tree throughout the Americas, and this is one of the consistent features of the lore regardless of its origins.

Physical Uses for the Tree: The Native Americans used cedar extensively for practical things—shredded cedar bark was made into canoes, rafts, paddles, and ropes; cedar was also frequently used for making totem poles on the west coast. Cedar was also used by many tribes, especially in the Western US, for making clothing and baskets—the cedar bark was peeled or shredded and woven in various ways. Where Sugar Maples grew, Cedar was used to make the spouts for the sap to drip from the trees.

Deities that Reside in Cedar Protecting the People. In multiple legends spanning Native American cultures, the cedar is said to house a deity or powerful spirit that will protect the people. For example, the Mandan myth “First Creator and Lone Man” Lone Man, who helped First Creator create the world, is born into the flesh. Before he leaves his people, he tells them erect a cedar pole as a totem and paint it red. This cedar is his body, and it will protect the people from all harm. In another tale, this one from an unknown tribe, Mother-Corn, who was the first ear of corn grown out of the sky, leads her people through many trials and tribulations to come to their lands and to receive the gifts of medicine and magic. When they finally arrive at their final destination, she transforms into a cedar tree to be with them always.

Cedar human souls can be contained within cedar. In a Cherokee legend, the Cherokee people asked for it to always be day, then always be night, and the Creator granted them their request. When it became night, many of them died of starvation. They finally beseech the creator to return the balance of day and night, and the Creator did so. But the Creator was sad for the loss of the people, so the Creator created a new tree—the cedar—and placed the spirits of the departed in the tree. The Cherokee, therefore, believe that their ancestors reside in the Cedar. In a Squamish story, “The Lure in Stanley Park” the Creator, Sagalie Tyree, transforms good humans into trees that they can go on benefiting humans after death.

In several stories, people who are seeking long life are transformed into Cedar trees by medicine men or deities (often for making a foolish request—you get what you ask for, literally).

Cedar as Creation and Transformation Agent. In one Cherokee story,  the Great Spirit took a pinch of cedar from his pocket and it turned into the animals. In several stories from the Pacific Northwest, cedar is carved into seals or fish and the carvings are transformed into real animals who are able to follow the instructions of the one who carved them. The Eskimo people also describe the extensive use of carved figures and totem poles to help illustrate the history of their people . Whether or not carvings and this kind of transformation was used with Eastern White Cedar is not clear from the stories I reviewed.

Cedar Connected to the Element of Fire and the Sun. It is no secret that cedar has a strong connection to fire; this is consistent between material in the Western esoteric traditions and the Native Lore. In a Tsimshian legend, “Walks All Over the Sky,” the sky was dark until one of the Sky chief’s children made a mask out of cedar that was in the shape of a ring. He lit the mask on fire and then walked from east to west. When he slept after his journey each day, sparks flew from his mouth and these were the stars. So in this way, Cedar is connected with the sun itself. In another legend, Cedar is used by Coyote, a trickster, to create a torch in several stories—this torch is usually attached to his tail and is used to light his path, often burning things on the way. Coyote is often found with fire in these tales, either doing tricks or learning to use them.

Cedar as a Cleansing, Protective, and “the great medicine.” Talking sticks can be made out of many woods in the Americas; a Cedar talking stick represents cleansing; likewise, Cedar is used extensively in ceremonial work in lodges and other ceremonies for purification. In one such Hopi birth ritual, a newborn is repeatedly washed in cedar tea and rubbed in cornmeal before being presented to the community. In another story from the Yuchi people, in the process of the world being created, a large monster comes and kills many Yuchis. They sever its head, but it resurrects with its head intact and again kills people. They sever its head again, placing it on an unnamed tree so the body couldn’t reach the head. The tree is found dead, the head was back on the monster, and the monster was killing. Finally, they kill the monster again, sever its head, and stick it on a cedar tree—the cedar is found alive with the blood of the dead monster head. The Yuchi call the cedar the “great medicine.”

Cedar as a Transforming Agent. In stories from the Sia and Apache, the Deer places her fawns next to a cedar fire that is cracking and popping and where the cedar sparks burns the spots on her fawns. Fox, in one story, and Coyote, in the other, are envious of the Deer’s beautiful offspring and build large cedar fires and end up burning up their young.

Conifers have the promise of spring. In the Senaca Legend “How the Conifers Show The Promise of Spring”  White Pine and his tribe stand against the winter as the eternal promise of spring. They drink a magical oil that allows them to keep the tribe green throughout the winter—and one of the tribe is Cedar.

Cedar as a Magical Wood for Instruments of Power.  Cedar was the wood for magical flutes of many kinds—one flute was made from the wood of a “storm struck” cedar and was a very powerful flute for wooing women (The Story of Mink) . In a Sioux tale, a man is lead by a woodpecker to a hollow cedar branch and is taught how to make a flute, which is also used as a love flute to woo the chief’s daughter. In an Iroquois tale, Okteondon, who is a great hunter, receives a hunting flute that allows him to play the flute and know what game to hunt and where to find it. Once, he leaves his flute at home and he is magically trapped by an evil woman on a cliff; when Okteondon is injured, the mouthpiece of the flute is covered in blood. The Cedar tree comes to Okteondon in a dream and shows him how to use a cedar twig to grow a great cedar to climb out of the cliff.

My Experiences with Cedar

Cedars in the center of the property - once there, but now mostly gone
Cedars in the center of the property – once there, but now mostly gone

My first experiences with the Eastern White Cedar were when I was looking to purchase a house in Michigan five years ago. It did not grow abundantly in the areas where I lived before (Indiana, Western PA). As I was examining a swampy area on a property, I came across this beautiful fallen tree with peeling bark, intricate leaf patterns, and tiny cones. The tree was returning to that swamp in a graceful fashion, and even after it had fallen, had a presence about it that was powerful. I sat with the tree for a moment, inspecting its beautiful reddish trunk and soft green evergreen fronds, and wanted to know more about the mystery tree. When I finally found the right property to purchase, a line of Eastern White Cedars (clearly planted there by someone) greeted me. Back in the last 1/3 of an acre, however, a giant pile of cut cedars (many with trunks intact) also were present—and the land was angry about the cutting. As I learned more about the property and discovered its history, I learned that about an acre of the cedars were cut because the previous owners “didn’t like the trees.” I dug the logs out of the brush pile out as best I could, used them for fence posts, carving, natural building, chicken coops, and more. As I used the wood and left other piles of it to return to the land, the anger in the land over the previous cuttings subsided, and my relationship with the cedars grew exponentially. This taught me an important lesson about the Eastern White Cedar—and all trees—we need to build, and rebuild, our relationships with them. They will not just automatically like us because we call ourselves druids.

Heat Trap for Garden: Cedar is one of those trees that seems warm all times of the year. I have found them, in permaculture design terms, to make a wonderful heat trap to catch and store energy—I have a line of Eastern White Cedars north of my organic veggie garden. They trap the sun with their thick foliage, and they warm up the beds closest to them. I can usually plant in the closest beds to those Cedars several weeks earlier than the other beds—I was planting carrots next to the cedars while there was still 12” of snow on the beds on the other side of the garden.

Crafting: Wand crafting and woodworking is another way that I have worked with Eastern White Cedar. The wood is very soft and workable, and for a new woodworker, quite forgiving. I made myself shower curtains and curtain rods for my home from some of the cedar I found discarded on my property. The other thing I made were wands—cedar wands seem to possess great fire energy, energy of making and doing, and masculine energy of projection. I used both branches and roots for this work, and the branches seem to contain more solar energy, while the roots more telluric energy. All are easy to work with hand tools (wood carvers, saws, sandpaper).

Fire Starting: Outdoor fires are much easier to start if you have an Eastern White Cedar nearby. First, the bark itself is a fantastic kindling—I often will peel off and make a small “nest” of cedar bark that I can throw a spark into (using traditional methods) or light with a match (using more conventional methods). The nice thing about using cedar bark as kindling is that it is nearly always dry on at least one face of the tree. The other aid that Eastern White Cedar gives us in terms of fire is the high amount of volatile oils present in the fronds, branches, and wood. Cedar fronds—even ones that are picked right from the tree—will generally burn with ease. If you can find some dry branches and fronds, put them on your fire as it is getting going and the fire will roar, crackle, and pop, and be extremely hot. Like all things that burn that hot, they do not burn long, so you’ll want to keep that in mind when feeding the fire. As a reminder, any evergreen trees should be burned in outdoor fires only as the saps can buildup in dangerous ways in a chimney and cause a chimney fire.

Smoke Clearing Sticks:  Druids in my community also make smoke clearing (smudge) sticks from Cedar.  The trick to these is that the sticks tend to crackle and pop unless you let the cedar dry out a bit first.  I have found that if I wait six months, the cedar smudges burn beautifully and don’t give too much of a firework display.  I add white sage, rosemary, and mugwort to my smudge sticks from my garden.  Good protective and clearing energies indeed!

Sunrise with Spruce, Maple, and Cedar in the Winter
Sunrise with Spruce, Maple, and Cedar in the Winter


This article has only scratched the surface of the traditional lore and my experiences with the Eastern White Cedar. Many ways that we might cultivate a relationship with trees as part of our druidic practices, and while the information above can get you started, there is no substitute for direct experience and developing your own relationship with each tree species and each individual tree.

One of the most simple things we can do to further our connection with trees is simply be with the trees and enter a meditative state—see what happens when we stand or sit next to the tree, when we meditate with a hand placed upon the tree, if we place our back against the tree, or we hug the tree (with the tree’s permission, of course). Visit the tree in different seasons, see how the trees energies subtly shift as we move between solstice and equinox.


Dana O'Driscoll

Dana O’Driscoll has been an animist druid for almost 20 years, and currently serves as Grand Archdruid in the Ancient Order of Druids in America. She is a druid-grade member of the Order of Bards, Ovates, and Druids and is the OBOD’s 2018 Mount Haemus Scholar. She is the author of Sacred Actions: Living the Wheel of the Year through Earth-Centered Spiritual Practice (RedFeather, 2021), the Sacred Actions Journal (RedFeather, 2022), and is the author/illustrator of the Tarot of Trees, Plant Spirit Oracle, and Treelore Oracle. Dana is a certified permaculture designer and permaculture teacher who teaches sustainable living courses and wild food foraging. Dana lives at a 5-acre homestead in rural western Pennsylvania with her partner and a host of feathered and furred friends. She writes at the Druids Garden blog and is on Instagram as @druidsgardenart.

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  1. I can relate to that “meditative state” when in the presence of the forest of trees.
    The sense of awe and peace warms the spirit like no other.
    Thank you for this most beautiful and explorative glimpse!

    …..Observer Jules….

    1. Yes, even a small grove of trees, or a single tree, can leave you in awe and reverence!

  2. I really have to thank you for writing this article. I’m somewhat ashamed to admit it, but I had a near-pathological hatred of arborvitae. In north NJ, they were one of the ubiquitous suburban foundation plantings along with juniper and yew, and became something of a yuppy symbol in my eyes. Shame on me for not looking deeper!

    1. Yes, I would look deeper into all three of those trees–they have much to teach :). There are so many plants that have been co-opted by suburbia…but still have gifts to share. One of the poster children of this, I think, is serviceberry, which I hope to write about at some point as well. Serviceberry is grown all over the place (my favorite harvest spots are the library parking lot and in front of this terribly ritzy development–two trees there yielded over 10 lbs of fruit with two of us picking in about an hour and a half). Serviceberry are quiet, unassuming trees with fruits that are kinda sweet, but kinda bland. Most people think they are “poison” haha! And then you cook them or can them and they go through this incredible transformation and they are the best fruit you have every eaten….all sitting there, unassuming, waiting for the right person to recognize their worth!

      I’m also planning on writing about juniper (eastern red cedar); its hard to untangle from Eastern White cedar, but I’ll do my best. These posts take me a few months of research and meditation each, so I’m only able to do a few sacred tree posts a year!

      1. Yes, I’ve managed to mend the relationship with both juniper and yew, but arborvitae was still outstanding. 😉

        Serviceberries are awesome! There’s one growing at the edge of my old grove, and I’ve always loved its steady presence.

        You can certainly see how much thought and effort go into these posts. I’d rather have three or four a year of this quality than anything less! (No pressure, no pressure.)

  3. I hope that eventually your blogs of this nature will become a book. One of my most favourite books is Jacqueline Memory Patterson’s Tree Wisdom, and I think a similar book incorporating indigenous American trees would be an amazing project.

    1. Lexie, that eventually is the plan! 🙂

  4. Excellent post, thanks! Now I’m sad that white cedar doesn’t occur in my area. We do have juniper though, so I look forward to that. (We had a juniper on our property, which alas we had to cut down–it harbored cedar apple rust, which harms apple trees.) I notice that none of the trees you’ve profiled are included in the Ogham. Was that intentional?

    1. Oh yeah, cedar rust is horrible stuff…looks like an alien too, when its sporing. It scared the crap out of me the first time I saw it!

      I’m eventually going to profile ogham trees, but they are going to in some cases be different. Ash, for example, is a much different tree thanks to Emerald Ash Borer, and teaches us hard lessons about ecological destruction…

      But really, there’s so much already on ogham trees that I wanted to show some that aren’t ogham!

  5. Wonderful post full of very useful research and experience. Thank you for sharing! I’m really enjoying this series.

    1. Thank you for the comment 🙂

  6. So WHY is The White Cedar so Sacred above all???

    It is truly the Tree of The Spirit Mother,… found only in the very Bosom of Mother Nature!!! The Cedar Groves are a quiet, comforting place of Serenity and Protection, deep in forests, beside The Life Giving Waters.

    It is where much Life is born and nourished, to grow strong thru infancy. Where the weak and sick are often lovingly held in their final moments of existence,… where Body, Spirit and Soul will rest forever.

    It is in The Great Mother’s Bosom, where many find refuge from the storms of every season!!! Where heavy snows are held above the ground. Even the torrential rains are held back to gentle mists beneath the strong, dense bows, and the raging winds are reduced to a gentile breeze. Those who gather together here at these times,, are welcomed in Peace,… whether predator or prey, NO ONE, is threatened or disturbed!!! The Bosom of The Spirit Mother,… is respected by ALL!!!

    Rivers and stream often flow freely year around, thru the dense Cedar Groves,… to quench ones thirst at anytime. The cool, dense shade thru the hottest summer days is unsurpassed, as is the warmth on the coldest winter nights.

    Truly a place of Great Magick, where much can be found in varying forms of flower, herbs, moss, and fungi,…. and in The Sacred Cedar too!!!

    1. Thank you for your comments and insights, Dan! It seems that you have spent quite a bit of time in the cedar groves, indeed :).

  7. I recently learned about an amazing white “cedar” tree on the shore of Lake Superior that made me think of this post, so I thought I’d share:

    The Grand Portage Ojibwe tribe website goes into a bit more detail about the tree’s significance to them:

    I hope you’re doing well and enjoying Spring so far 🙂

    1. Oh! And I almost forgot about this other amazing one growing off the side of a cliff overlooking Georgian Bay:

      That one reminds me of the Strength card in your Tarot of Trees

    2. Thanks for the links, Donovan! So great to hear from you :). I would like very much to visit these White Cedars!

  8. Frederick W Stafford

    Thank you for the post. I have several large eastern white cedars around my house and they are very rare around here so I feel fortunate. I would love to know how old they are but am reluctant to bore a hole for a ring count.

    1. Thank you, Frederick! The cedars can be deceptively small and still be quite old!

  9. This was a wonderfully written article and very handy for me, thank you!

    1. Thank you! 🙂 Glad you enjoyed it!

  10. Is this info available in book form. If yes, how can I get the book. Just now arriving in Cedar River Michigan area and living off grid with a friend in the swamps. Quickly learning about the “trees”. Much white cedar here, I’m from the mountains of VA, so never experienced this. I would like a book because internet is spotty at best. Thank you. Karen from VA

    1. Hi Karen, I don’t have this information in book form (yet) but you are welcome to print off articles from the website :). Blessings on your journey!

    1. Thank you for the reblog!

  11. Any idea if these trees can leach chemicals into ground water or nearby streams and kill off microorganisms?

    Such a beautiful picture you paint of these trees!

    1. No, they aren’t like walnuts (with Jugulone) as far as I am aware. Thanks for the comment!

  12. Thank you so much. I loved reading this article and appreciated the broad scope of information that you provided. Blessings.

  13. Great article! I love the cedars too 🙂 But you might want to rethink the use of cedars with the chickens–I have read that cedar chips in the coop are toxic to chickens.

    1. I thought it was for animals in confinement. But I will look more into it! Thanks for the info!

  14. i’m anishinaabek. there’s no such thing as “native american legends”

    1. we have nations, and communities within those nations. we a race, we’re hundreds of separate, unique cultures. you’ll never find anything specific, true, or useful by looking up “native american legends” just like you wouldn’t find useful info about the spiritual importance of the hazel cord found around the neck of Windeby II by looking up “european legends”

    2. we have local lore, just like settlers. it matters.

    if you want to know which cedars we use and how we use them, don’t look it up in books written by settlers unless you’re looking at first-contact first hand ethnobotanical records – and even then, those are filled with generalisations and honest misunderstandings.

    you can literally just ask our elders. wouldn’t that be easier than repeating the same tired lies as other settlers who couldn’t be bothered to find the truth?

    i believe in you!

    1. Hello Nimakokaaz,

      Thanks for your comment and sharing your thoughts and perspective.

      If you’ll look at the post, you’ll see two things: I’m drawing primarily upon lore from this site, which is hosted and maintained as a large repository of first nations material from different specific cultures: In my post, each different legend that comes from different cultures is noted, linked, and attributed to that specific Native culture. I’m also drawing upon my broad uses (e.g. many different native peoples did use tulip poplar for cordage because its the best cordage plant we have on the East coast). I also do draw upon several different ethnobotanical sources, including Hutchens Indiana Herbology of North America and Moerman’s Native American Food Plants: An Ethnobotanical Dictionary. Through piecing these things together, I’m trying to understand their historical use.

      These sources don’t capture the rich and myriad of uses of these plants; most are one or two-line entries. This includes the early works I draw upon, such as So I’m also investing in learning directly myself, through trial and error, and finding people who will teach me directly, through earth skills and other gatherings.

      As far as I am aware, there are no native elders near here that I could ask. I would absolutely love this kind of conversation. I have not, as of yet, found anyone who is open to sharing this information with me. I live on the ancestral grounds of the Susquehannock. This is an extinct tribe. Another local tribe, the Shawnee, were forcefully displaced to Oklahoma. I’ve written to them about their knowledge of native plants here and have not gotten a response. I wish it were so easy as to “literally ask the elder” but elders are not easily accessible. Do you have other ideas?

  15. If you’re not Native American, do NOT use white sage or cedar. It is cultural appropriation. They are closed practices and sacred medicines.

    1. While I agree that there are ways in which these plants can be used in ways that are culturally appropriation, there are also uses of these plants that are not cultural appropriation. I don’t think a blanket statement saying you cannot use these under any circumstances is useful or helpful. For example, if a native person is selling bundles they made, is that ok to purchase and support that indigenous business? These are rarely, if ever, black and white issues.

    2. Who is and isn’t Native American? Is it defined by membership in an indigenous Nation? If so, the descendants of Indian women forced to marry White men and bear children to them, like myself, don’t deserve the chance to rediscover and reclaim our ancestors, their stories, and their culture just because of some bad behavior of Whites? That’s not what my ancestors are singing to me. My father had few opportunities to learn from Native elders, but he studied and learned first through archaeology, and finally through Elders who caught lots of hate for sharing sacred knowledge with “Whites.” My Native ancestors left an indelible legacy of love for the Earth our Mother and for all our relations of every species that harsh words alone can’t scare it away.

      1. Hi Jesse, these are really good points. I don’t have the right to answer that question, since I don’t have any native blood, and can’t speak for a community to which I do not belong. But it sounds like you are really digging into your own ancestry, and maybe, you can answer that question for yourself. Blessings to you on your journey!

        1. primordialillumination

          No ancestry can lay claim to any plants or animals on Earth. How absurd.

    3. such chickenshit. they are for all humanity to help enter divinity.

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